Secretly-taped phone recordings aired on Thursday’s “Dr. Phil” show allegedly carrying the voice of Jared Fogle contain admissions of the speaker’s sexual interest in children.
Fogle, the former spokesman for the Subway sandwich chain, agreed in September to plead guilty to having sex with minors and child pornography, and will be sentenced next month to between five and 12-and-a-half years in prison.
Dr. Phil McGraw’s producers acquired the Fogle tapes from Rochelle Herman-Walrond, a self-described journalist and former radio host from Florida who said she secretly recorded Fogle and became an FBI informant. (The agency has publicly acknowledged receiving the tapes before raiding Fogle’s Indiana home on July 7, but has not confirmed that Herman-Walrond ever worked with investigators as an undercover informant.) Additional audio will be aired during Friday’s “Dr. Phil” show.
In one instance, the speaker, allegedly Fogle tells Herman-Walrond that he likes boys and girls of “all ages,” adding, “that’s the thing I mean. It depends…who is ready for what.”
Herman-Walrond told McGraw that she tricked Fogle into thinking she was planning a party for him that would include several underage guests – friends of her children, she allegedly explained to him. The speaker then insists that Herman-Walrond wear skimpy clothing, saying it might get the children “sexed up.”
In other audio, the speaker asks Herman-Walrond to describe her daughter’s 7- and 8-year-old male and female friends. He wants specifics, he says, on those “you think are pretty hot” or “cute.” The speaker also wants to know who “the most promising” of those children are.
At one point, Herman-Walrond describes a fictional 8-year-old girl who has problems at home. Later in the conversation, when Herman-Walrond asks what traits to look for in potential victims, the speaker keys in on the vulnerable child.
The speaker suggests “the girl from the broken home” as a “definite possibility,” noting she might be more amenable to seduction if “you just show her some affection.”