New evidence that led investigators to the arrest of former Subway Spokesman Jared Fogle is surfacing, and on Thursday secret-recorded tapes in his own words aired on the daytime talk show “Dr. Phil.”
Fogle was indicted on child porn and child sex charges in August. He has accepted a plea deal and is awaiting sentencing in November. In the audio recordings, being heard publicly for the first time on “Dr Phil,” Fogle discusses his sexual interest in children. CBS News independently verified the recordings with the FBI.
Fogle was secretly recorded by a woman who had befriended him and then became an FBI informant. The woman, Rochelle Herman-Walrond, is a former radio host who interviewed him and became suspicious when she overhead him say he found middle school girls attractive.
“I was stunned,” she recalled. “I was shocked.”
Fogle became a household name as a pitchman for Subway, and used his fame to establish a foundation promoting healthy lifestyles among children. Fogle pleaded guilty to one count of distributing and receiving child pornography and one count of crossing state lines to engage in illicit sex with minors.
In one of the tapes that aired on Dr. Phil’s show on Thursday, Fogle can be heard saying, “…early middle school is probably one of the best.”
Herman-Walrond told Dr. Phil that Fogle told her that he preferred middle school aged children.
“I like all ages. That’s the thing I mean. It depends…who is ready for what. You know, who’s going to give you the glance,” he said in one of the recording.
In November 2006, Herman-Walrond had him on her radio show again after their first encounter where he made a suggestive comment about middle school children calling girls of that age “hot.”
“I wasn’t comfortable having him on my show, but as a journalist, I wanted to dig deeper,” she told Dr. Phil. “I wanted to find out more.”
Dr. Phil asked if it worried Herman-Walrond to have him on her show again.
“It worried me, but if he was going to say something again I wanted to be able to have the opportunity to hear it,” she said.